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  Thinking of becoming a JW.

  by Kate82 in

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  hi,.

  i am new to here so please be bear with me.. i have always believed in god, but was never baptised, my parents wanted me to make up my own mind religon wise.. i am thinking of becoming a jw and am just needing some advice on how to do this, bible study and jw beliefs.

  also do jw say grace and how.. i am greatful of any help.. thanks.

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  Christ Alone

  I quickly reviewed the hashes from Recovery, Still Recovery, Nanana, Si1, Elephant, and Kate82 and saw no matches. I think we may have pushed out a searching person. :-(
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  Thinking of becoming a JW.

  by Kate82 in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  hi,.

  i am new to here so please be bear with me.. i have always believed in god, but was never baptised, my parents wanted me to make up my own mind religon wise.. i am thinking of becoming a jw and am just needing some advice on how to do this, bible study and jw beliefs.

  also do jw say grace and how.. i am greatful of any help.. thanks.

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  Christ Alone

  Good point jook...
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  Scriptural Justification For "New Light"

  by What Now? in

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  2. beliefs

  (i have wanted to ask this for a long time but i can never post from my phone and rarely get a chance to sit at the computer).

  just wondering ... what is the actual scriptural justification the governing body is using with regards to this new light of only them being the faithful and discreet slave?.

  ie - are they saying something like "based on this original greek word that jesus used", or "when compared with this other scripture", or something along those lines?.

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  As far as the GB is concerned, the understanding may be clarified, but they've believed this way for the entire time. Who else besides the GB were allowed to give "food and the proper time"? The other anointed were not considered. No, it's always been the GB effectively. I think they avoided actually saying it because it shouts CULT. But now is the proper time, I suppose.
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  Scriptural Justification For "New Light"

  by What Now? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  (i have wanted to ask this for a long time but i can never post from my phone and rarely get a chance to sit at the computer).

  just wondering ... what is the actual scriptural justification the governing body is using with regards to this new light of only them being the faithful and discreet slave?.

  ie - are they saying something like "based on this original greek word that jesus used", or "when compared with this other scripture", or something along those lines?.

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  It's taken from only 1 single place. Proverbs 4:18. Interestingly this is not a prophecy about the Faithful slave. There is nothing to support their interpretation of this as a prophecy of how the Faithful Slave would release food in the end. They also compare it to Matthew 24:45-47 to say that the slave releases light at the "proper time". There may be a time that is NOT proper. Why it would not be proper to know WHO the Faithful slave was until 90 years after it was apointed is beyond me...
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  Thinking of becoming a JW.

  by Kate82 in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  hi,.

  i am new to here so please be bear with me.. i have always believed in god, but was never baptised, my parents wanted me to make up my own mind religon wise.. i am thinking of becoming a jw and am just needing some advice on how to do this, bible study and jw beliefs.

  also do jw say grace and how.. i am greatful of any help.. thanks.

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  Christ Alone

  I suppose it could've been fishy. But I sure would feel bad if we drove a questioning girl away by accusing her of being a troll when she really wasn't. There are a hundred reasons why she could know what the NWT is. She'd been here for a week or so lurking among the other posts.
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  The WT proves again that it does not understand Child Psychology

  by Christ Alone in

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  i posted this elsewhere, but wanted to create a thread about this specifically.

  here is one way that i think the wt is absolutely wrong in it's advice on raising children:.

  in the 1/13 awake they talk about mistakes that parents make with their children.

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  I remember being young (maybe 12 or 13) and my mom telling me how my aunt screwed up her kids. My mom actually said, "She made them all feel TOO good about themselves and it makes me sick. Everytime they would do something right, she was praising them for it! That's because she isn't as close to Jehovah's organization as she should be, and they tell us not to do that."

  Until I read the 1/13 article, I was unaware that the WT actually HAD said that. I'll have to research it and see where else they said it. Obviously my mom had read it in the past.

  Along those lines, I grew up with HORRIBLE self esteem. My parents were not abusive and my family was somewhat happy in many ways. But I was not praised for my accomplishments. There was little to no acknowledgement when I brought home A's on my report card. There was some praise here and there, but not much. I'm not sure if that is what led to my lack of self esteem or not. High school was torture for me. I was a loner type and was constantly picked on. I don't even like remembering high school.
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  The WT proves again that it does not understand Child Psychology

  by Christ Alone in

  1. watchtower
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  i posted this elsewhere, but wanted to create a thread about this specifically.

  here is one way that i think the wt is absolutely wrong in it's advice on raising children:.

  in the 1/13 awake they talk about mistakes that parents make with their children.

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  Now, that is not to say that overpraising can't be done. You can get carried away with it. Merely inflating a childs ego can be damaging as he will see that this sort of praise does not happen in the real world. He will be confused later in life as to why all the praising stopped. This can be done by overpraising a child's intelligence, instead of their effort.

  Many researchers have come to the conclusion that overpraising only has to do with overpraising the WRONG thing. Overpraising a childs intelligence can be damaging to future growth. But strongly praising their effort will not be.

  However, the WT cannot be bothered to read the end of the articles and see what conclusion the actual researchers came to.
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  The WT proves again that it does not understand Child Psychology

  by Christ Alone in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i posted this elsewhere, but wanted to create a thread about this specifically.

  here is one way that i think the wt is absolutely wrong in it's advice on raising children:.

  in the 1/13 awake they talk about mistakes that parents make with their children.

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  Psychologist Carol Dweck and her colleagues have conducted important research that demonstrates significant negative effects of praising children’s abilities , rather than their effort. These studies have also shown important positive effects when children were taught that effort, not innate ability, was the key to success. Dweck distinguishes two types of beliefs, or mindsets, that children (and adults) hold about the nature of our abilities. Children with a fixed mindset regard abilities, including intelligence, as unchangeable traits. Children with a growth mindset believe that our abilities can improve with effort.

  It seems to me that the WT took the term "Overpraise" and instead of understanding what child psychologists were saying about it, just ran with it on their own. There is absolutely NO reference material in the article other than "Researchers have noted..."

  What "Researchers have noted" is that children are either NOT praised enough, or praised over the WRONG thing (ability over effort).

  While a few years ago the worry was that overpraising leads to narccisism, it has now been shown that a narccisistic person usually does not have proper self esteem and to compensate puts on a show of being entitled in order to survive.
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  The WT proves again that it does not understand Child Psychology

  by Christ Alone in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i posted this elsewhere, but wanted to create a thread about this specifically.

  here is one way that i think the wt is absolutely wrong in it's advice on raising children:.

  in the 1/13 awake they talk about mistakes that parents make with their children.

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  Christ Alone

  I posted this elsewhere, but wanted to create a thread about this specifically. Here is one way that I think the WT is absolutely wrong in it's advice on raising children:

  In the 1/13 Awake they talk about mistakes that parents make with their children. One of them was so off that I was actually shocked (couldn't believe they could still shock me). It was on how parents overpraise their children. It really showed how LITTLE they know about human psychology. They say that we live in a culture where people feel a sense of entitlement. This is caused by parents praising their children over each of their accomplishments.

  In their usual non specific comments about who is saying what, they say: "Researchers have noted a disturbing trend: Many young adults are entering the workforce with a marked sense of entitlement - an attitude in which they expect success, even if they have done little to earn it." True enough, however I can't research the "researchers" that stated this. But that's not the problem.

  They continue: "What is behind it? ...Many fathers and mothers thus began lavishing a constant flow of praise upon their children, even when those children did nothing particularly praiseworthy. Each accomplishment, no matter how small, was celebrated. ...Making children feel good about themselves became more important than teaching them to accomplish things that they could actually feel good about. ...Praising children simply to make them feel good cause them to develop a distorted view of themselves. "

  How does the WT say to solve the problem? "Do not dole out praise just to make your children feel good about themselves. Likely, it will not work."

  WHA?!?!? Interestingly, seemingly to ancknoweldge the harshness of this stance, there is a footnote in the article that says, "The Bible does not advocate physical or emotional abuse of children (why did they leave out sexual?). The goal of correction is to teach, not to provide an outlet for a parent's anger."

  The WT clearly does not understand human, or more specifically CHILD psychology. Very few professionals would agree with them. People that enter the workforce with this sense of entitlement and over inflated view of themelseves are usually suffering from very LOW self esteem. They were victims of being overly criticised by their parents. Sometimes this is the case with bullies too. It's not that they feel so good about themselves and feel better than everyone that they decide to pick on others. It is because they were NOT praised by parents.

  To support this, I did some research on what psychologists are saying about this claim that parents that overpraise children are raising overly self confident people. Dr. Kenneth Barish, the author of "Pride and Joy" said: It has become common in recent years for parents to be warned about the dangers of praise. We are told that frequent praise, although intended to bolster a child’s self-confidence and self-esteem, may instead create increased anxiety and ultimately undermine her initiative and confidence. ...In this view, when praise is cheap, children fail to learn the importance of hard work. The critics ask, how can children learn the need for effort and perseverance when they are not challenged to do better, when they are given A’s for C work, awarded trophies for just showing up, and only hear good things? My own experience—and, I believe, a correct reading of the research on praise—teaches a different lesson. In three decades of clinical practice, I have met many discouraged, angry, and unhappy children. I have met demoralized kids who were unable to sustain effort when they encountered even mild frustration or disappointment, and others who had developed attitudes of entitlement.

  And the culprit is not praise, but criticism. Most of these children were over-criticized; very few were overpraised. Children need praise. We all do. From early in life, children look to us for praise and approval, and to share moments of pride. Of course, I do not recommend praise (or, for that matter, expressions of sympathy or solace) that is unrealistic or insincere. I certainly do not believe in empty praise.

  But I believe that we should be generous, not stingy, with our praise."

  (taken from http://www.childmind.org/en/posts/articles/2012-2-10-are-our-children-overpraised)
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  A terrible Illustrstion

  by BU2B in

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  for a little background, my father served at brooklyn bethel a couple of years after the apostate purge and witchhunt.. he talks about how people said how you could see "jehovahs spirit" working to oust the korah dathan and abiram, hymanaus and alexander influences such a evil ray franz and others.

  they make it seem like he was leaving to start his own religion or something.

  anyways he was talking to a couple who were friends with another couple who went apostate.

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  Christ Alone

  That whole "you can just see Jehovah's spirit at bethel" line is just propaganda. I was at Bethel, and it was one of the most miserable experiences of my life. Imagine life in the Kingdom Hall....24 hours a day. The judgementalism, hypocrisy, rule making, men who love power, etc is increased by 100. I DID meet some fantastic people there (usually people from other countries). But those periods were short reprieves from the grim reality of Bethel.

  It was common to hear GB members say "Paradise is going to be just like Bethel life." If that's what it would be like...shoot me now and send me to hell.